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God loves slavery.
And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised.
Genesis chapter 17, verse 12
God knows that there are children who are bought as slaves and well he being the nice god that he is decided that both slave and non-slave children should be circumcised. Bless your heart God always thinking about the children.
The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, "These are the regulations for the Passover: No foreigner is to eat of it. Any slave you have bought may eat of it after you have circumcised him, but a temporary resident and a hired worker may not eat of it.
Exodus Chapter 21, verse 1
Again God is showing how he is comfortable with people having slaves. Foreigners and those who are hired to work temp and full-time apparently can’t eat during the Passover. How dare they even think about eating! Slaves, yeah they’re fine.
Now these are the ordinances which you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,' then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him for life.
Exodus Chapter 21, verse 1
God explains in great detail that he is all for slavery but tells you how to do it. Slaves who have families must leave their families behind once they are set free; if this ‘slave’ doesn’t want to leave their family behind then they are instantly mutilated and branded a slave for life. This clearly is a god of ‘love’.
If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20
You can beat your slave as long as you don’t kill him or her? Well, isn’t that just nice that someone can be beaten to a bloody pulp but as long as they survive you won’t be punished. These ‘slaves’ aren’t people they’re just objects that you own. God you sure do think about the well-being of the slaves.
If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be stoned
Exodus Chapter 21, verse 32
God I find this one a little disturbing. You’re putting monetary value onto human life. Thirty shekels in today’s currency; the fine would be between $12,000 and $15,000. The owner of the bull must pay this fine and then his bull must be stoned? Clearly the bull is getting the better deal here; oh wait stoned to death? What is with you and stoning people to death? God you clearly have a fixation of watching people suffer.
No one outside a priest's family may eat the sacred offering, nor may the guest of a priest or his hired worker eat it. But if a priest buys a slave with money, or if a slave is born in his household, that slave may eat his food.
Leviticus Chapter 22, verse 10
‘Slaves’ who have children are automatically ‘slaves’ and can eat from the priest house but anyone else that’s just an abomination! I find it more disturbing that God is still perfectly okay with the whole ‘slave’ concept.
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Luke, Chapter 7, verse 2
God is telling you who you can make a slave and also you can’t keep a slave. Slaves must be passed down like the objects that they are. Children are born into slavery and are slaves for the rest of their life. Except those Israelites! Don’t you mess with them!
Now a centurion had a slave who was dear to him, who was sick and at the point of death. When he heard of Jesus, he sent to him elders of the Jews, asking him to come and heal his slave. And when they came to Jesus, they besought him earnestly, saying, "He is worthy to have you do this for him, for he loves our nation, and he built us our synagogue." And Jesus went with them. When he was not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying to him, "Lord, do not trouble yourself, for I am not worthy to have you come under my roof; therefore I did not presume to come to you. But say the word, and let my servant be healed. For I am a man set under authority, with soldiers under me: and I say to one, 'Go,' and he goes; and to another, 'Come,' and he comes; and to my slave, 'Do this,' and he does it." When Jesus heard this he marveled at him, and turned and said to the multitude that followed him, "I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith." And when those who had been sent returned to the house, they found the slave well.
Luke, Chapter 7, verse 2
Here is another example of Jesus being a jerk. Jesus heals this ‘slave’ and then instead of freeing the slave from his misery he just says okay back to being a slave you go. What a jerk! Also, I’m pretty sure Jesus didn’t have supernatural powers, just saying.
Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever your task, work heartily...
Colossians, chapter 3, verse 22
God is showing that he loves slavery and the whole concept of it. Work hard ‘slaves’ and fear God. What a great life motto!
Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to be refractory, nor to pilfer, but to show entire and true fidelity.
Titus, chapter 2 verse 9
God only loves the Israelites and it is so obvious in how he defends only them and everyone else is inferior. Accept your fate of being a ‘slave’ and follow these rules.
Examine the rules of slavery and you’ll notice that even Jesus didn’t try to abolish slavery; he was perfectly fine with the idea. He healed a man and told him to continue to be a slave! Jesus most likely didn’t have supernatural powers. He wasn’t the six foot supermodel most of us worship. Jesus was a Middle Eastern man, five-feet one to be exact.
The Bible condones slavery because the Bible was written by slave-owning men, not by God. God is imaginary.
Jesus was a jerk.
[Jerk is a an annoyingly stupid or foolish person. An unlikable person; especially: one who is cruel, rude, or small-minded.]
"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven." Matthew 5:43
I want you to read this message and just really take it all in. Jesus tells you to love you neighbors and your enemies. Pray for them (even though I have no clue why or what that would do) so that you can get into heaven. It seems pretty simple right? Well the further you read on, Jesus proves that not only getting into heaven is nearly impossible but he also proves that he’s a jerk and starts making up shit along the way; because he’s a jerk and that’s what jerks do.
Jesus doesn’t love his enemies:
He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned [to hell].
Prior to this Jesus preaches about how you should love your enemy and you should pray for them; but in this verse however Jesus tells you to spite and condemn your enemy to hell. Which one is it Jesus? Even if you don’t ‘believe in’ god or haven’t even heard of this god you will be condemned to hell. Clearly this is proof that Jesus was in fact a jerk and also contradicting as well.
Jesus being dishonest:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
How many times have we all prayed for something to come true and it didn’t? Well, Jesus says if you pray for it and you have faith in him he will make it happen. You’ve prayed for world peace. You’ve prayed for starving children to be fed and nothing happens. You have faith in God and Jesus and yet nothing ever happens when you pray. Maybe because Jesus lied about prayer and how it really does nothing!
Jesus thought the world was flat:
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
Even at the highest mountain on earth which is Mount Everest, the furthest you will see is 250 miles. There were thriving countries around the world that Jesus could not possibly have seen. Jesus was not only a jerk but also proved how dishonest he really was.
Jesus was racist:
A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession." Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us." He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said. He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
Jesus called this Canaanite Woman a dog, what a racist jerk! Afterwards Jesus helps the woman but it still doesn’t take away from the fact that Jesus called this woman a dog. People will say that Jesus loves everyone; well he surely didn’t love this Canaanite Woman.
Jesus stole… I mean ‘borrowed’ a horse:
As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage and Bethany at the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two of his disciples, saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and just as you enter it, you will find a colt tied there, which no one has ever ridden. Untie it and bring it here. If anyone asks you, 'Why are you doing this?' tell him, 'The Lord needs it and will send it back here shortly.' "
Jesus clearly doesn’t know the difference between ‘borrowing’ and ‘stealing’. Let me explain; ‘borrowing’ means that you’ve asked the owner for consent to use that so called item that you wish to use with intention to return it to the owner. Jesus however doesn’t ask the owner of the horse he sends his disciple to ‘steal’ a horse which is taking an item without consent from the owner. The lord can just create a horse right? Well, why doesn’t he? Also why hasn’t anyone said ‘stealing’ is wrong, unless you’re ‘borrowing’ for the lord; all sins are forgiven in that case.
Jesus was very dramatic:
"Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come! If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
Wait what?! Cut off the arm that causes you to sin? Your arm doesn’t cause you to sin that would be your brain. I’m not sure where Jesus is getting his information from because this one is just completely and utterly ridiculous on many levels. Jesus missed the very important message of rehabilitating and re-educating oneself to prevent the behaviors from further happening. Sorry Jesus but you’re just making things up again just like a jerk would.
Jesus threw temper tantrums:
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts.
No one liked Jesus concept of ‘borrowing’ and well Jesus got mad and overturned tables and cracked out the whip. Most Christians have a warm, loving image of Jesus. Jesus is the "Prince of Peace" and the "Lamb of God" in their eyes. Jesus is a perfect, sinless being. What part of this situation is Jesus any of the above? Jesus surely isn’t the ‘Prince of Peace’ overturning tables and acting like a childish brat. What person of peace vandalizes property?
Jesus killed a fig tree:
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.
Jesus we know you weren’t you because you were hungry and too bad snickers weren’t around because that could’ve cured your hunger fit you just displayed.
First and foremost why didn’t Jesus just make the tree sprout figs if he wanted figs? Since he was performing all these supernatural magic acts prior. Why didn’t Jesus do that in this situation? What did the fig tree do to Jesus? It’s not the tree fault that it isn’t the season for figs. Fig trees were harmed in the making of this story. Fig trees you better take warning, when Jesus comes looking for those figs you better sprout them magically or you’ll be cursed with death. What a jerk!
Jesus contradicts himself yet again:
Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.
Uh, what? But you said:
"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
You said this Jesus!! Now you must hate your family and life itself? I’m completely and utterly lost here. Which one is it? Do I love my enemies or hate them? If this is the only way to be a disciple of yours then I’m not onboard with this because I love life and I love my family.
What happened to honor thy mother and thy father? You can’t honor someone you hate! Good job contradicting yourself yet again Jesus.
Jesus explains how to get eternal life:
On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. "Teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
"What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"
He answered: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"
"You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."
Jesus you need to lay off the wine because you’re all over the place. Remember saying this?
Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.
Do you hate your enemies or do you love them? Maybe it’s a love hate type of relationship. You have to love them and hate them at the same time. I’m completely and utterly confused as to why I should hate anyone or fake loving someone for eternal reward. Damn you Jesus.
But wait it gets worse!
A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone. You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.'"
"All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said.
When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
What the fuck Jesus! None of this makes any sense now.
Well, you got the part that you’re not good correct. Good people don’t overturn tables and crack out whips. (Except for erotic pleasure and that’s totally different.) Jesus you killed a fig tree. You stole a horse and you told people that they need to hate their mother and father to follow you.
The rules for getting into heaven are overly complicated and just downright contradictory. Then there’s an additional rule Jesus forgot. Get ready for it!
Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever."
Sorry Jesus but this is incredibly disgusting. You told all those other people some incredibly contradicting rules for eternal life and now you must become a cannibal and eat your flesh and drink your blood? Jesus you are so good at telling stories you should write a book, oh wait. Never mind.
Jesus contradictions continue:
He called a little child and had him stand among them. And [Jesus] said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
(Face palm) Jesus you told all those other people something totally different. You’ve displayed that getting into heaven is near impossible because the rules just keep changing; now you’re telling a child he needs act more like little children? How does one become more like little children? Adults need to act like little children too? My guess is somewhere along the series of ramblings you’ve decided to just wing it because no thought or logic went into this one.
Wait what! No there can’t be more?!
"I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
Jesus I’m going to ask you to put down the wine and re-read the things you’ve told people about getting eternal life in heaven because your rules are so contradicting and nonsensical that I’m at a loss for words. Now you have to be born again? Regress all the way to infancy and become wind and water in the spirit? What?!!
Jesus gets it wrong again:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Let me get this straight Jesus. The only way to get into heaven is to have a love hate relationship with your enemies and neighbors. You must hate your life, sell everything you own and give to the poor; become born again in the spirit and regress to infancy. None of that matters now? I have to kill people? I thought that murder was against the commandment? Stealing is too but you told someone to steal a horse, no wait ‘borrow’ the horse is more correct.
So far all I’ve learned about getting into heaven is nothing. The rules all make no sense and yet you keep rambling on and on to each person. You clearly don’t want anyone in heaven because your consistency is completely off and this is sounding like a scam if you ask me.
Secondly if one were to follow the bible literally. The following people would have to die:
Anyone who works on the Sabbath Day, and yes six days of work is required. (Every person who works in retail or restaurants will be killed.)
Stubborn and rebellious children must be put to death. (This is a lot of teenagers that need to be killed.)
Anyone that is LBGT and anyone who commits adultery, yeah you’re getting put to death. (This is a lot of people that need to die.)
Anyone who sleeps with his neighbor’s wife must be put to death. (Not sure how often this happens but to whomever committed this act shall be put to death too.)
I’ll say this again, any religion that promotes the killing of innocent people is not an ideology worth following. Please don’t tell me that religion and god is the only reason you are not out killing people right now because it is against the law to murder people. Society cannot function if people have to constantly worry about being harmed or killed. This is why I don’t like the ideology of Islam because it displays very horrible disposition. If you don’t believe in the god of Allah you will be tortured and/or killed.
Let’s talk about Islam.
In Arabic, the word “Islam” means submission or surrender – however, it was derived from the root word “salam”. From this root word, you can also derive the words peace and safety. Many people feel that Islam implies some sort of enslavement to Allah, but others find it more helpful to define the word “Islam” as surrender.
Many religions have a concept of surrender to God. In Jewish history, when the ancient Hebrews obeyed God’s commands, they had a long period of prosperity and stability.
In Christianity, surrendering to God is a way of putting your life into more capable hands – in fact, Jesus asked many of his disciples to surrender their livelihoods and follow him.
So, if we look at the word ‘Islam’ in this way, we can understand why obeying Allah’s commands and trusting in Allah’s wisdom could bring about peace for a Muslim.
The word does not represent a one-sided relationship, where the believer is enslaved to Allah. Rather, the word Islam indicates a covenant between Allah and his followers, where a Muslim surrenders his or her will to Allah in return for peace or safety.
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Koran 2:191
Murder anyone who isn’t a believer in Allah. This presents a huge problem because not everyone has even heard of Allah or the religion of Islam. Does this mean that people who aren’t believers should die? There are roughly 4,200 religions in the world, how do you know that your religion is the right one; also how can you say your holy text doesn’t promote violence? It’s clearly saying kill those who don’t believe!!
"Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood." Koran 9:123
Infidels: a person who does not believe in religion or who adheres to a religion other than one's own.
Religion does teach you to spread the word of the holy text to everyone, but this is taking that to another level. You can’t go around making war and promoting violence against anyone whom doesn’t want to follow your religion; also calling someone an ‘infidel’ because they don’t want to adhere to your religion isn’t showing any kind of love, tolerance and peace. It’s quite opposite to be exact.
"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Koran 9:5
This is completely fucked up on so many levels. First, you have to seek out people in your neighborhood who aren’t practicing the religion of Islam and wage war against them. Then when the opportunity arises you should kidnap them and kill them? You have to be literally fucking insane to think that this is a socially acceptable thing to do! Secondly, opportunity arises to kill someone how? What the fuck does that even mean!
"The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them."... Koran 9:30
Doesn’t this sound so familiar? Christians calling all people in the LGBT Community ‘perverts’ and now Islam Extremist calling all Christians and Jews ‘perverts’. I don’t think any of you understand what the definition of a pervert is.
Pervert is a person whose sexual habits are not considered acceptable.
Two consenting adults having consensual sex aren’t ‘perverted’. However, an adult trying to have sex with a child would be considered perverted. Rapists are perverted as well, are there examples of these in all groups? Yes, but to label everyone ‘perverted’ is just plain dumb. You can disagree with someone’s ideology but insulting them like this isn’t making matters any better.
"Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Koran 5:33
You can’t say anything bad about Islam or else you will be injured to the point your wounds will never heal properly, or you will be killed. Kind of like throwing rocks from a glass house isn’t it? You can call Jews and Christians ‘perverted’ but if they say anything bad about your religion it becomes such a severe problem that results in irreversible injuries and/or death. This is truly a religion of peace.
"Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies." Koran 22:19
I find it quite disturbing that some people think that Islam is a religion of peace. So far all I’ve been told is that I must seek non-Islamic followers and bash their heads in and/or kill them if they say anything bad about my ideology or don’t want to follow it. Such a peaceful way to promote your ideology: if I don’t agree with it. Don’t want to follow it. I will be brutally attacked and possibly killed. Almost like religion is based off someone’s personal opinion rather than the opinion of an actual god.
"The unbelievers are stupid urge the Muslims to fight them." Koran 8:65
Non-believers and non-followers of Islam must be sought out like wild animals. War must be waged against them; they must be brutally attacked and/or killed. What the fuck is peaceful about any of this? I’m not entirely sure which is more stupid, the author of the holy text or the individuals who think that it’s okay to do exactly what the text says.
"Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." Koran 3:28
Religious arrogance, you don’t befriend anyone who isn’t following your religion or ‘infidels’. Actually I don’t see how you’d befriend anyone who isn’t following your religion when you have to wage war against them, brutally attack them and/or kill them. Last time I checked people don’t befriend people who want to force their religion down their throats and throw violent threats at them. That’s more like an enemy than a friend.
"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an." Koran 8:12
Terrorize, wage war, attack and murder. These are not acts of peace. They are acts of violence.
"Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels." Koran 8:60
These scriptures are clear proof that Islam isn’t a religion of peace. There is nothing peaceful about terrorizing people and brutally attacking them for not adapting your ideology. Islamophobia is a dangerous path and yes I understand, but the point I am trying to make here is simple. If your ideology tells you that it is okay to harm other people for not sharing your point of view, you seriously need to consider a new one. It is not okay in any way shape or form to harm others for having a different view point, especially if their view point doesn’t involve harming other people.
Religion can be used as a weapon and that weapon can be very dangerous. It's not okay to threaten someone or wage violence against someone in the name of your religion. It's one thing if someone is harming other people and you take a stand against them; however it becomes a huge problem when you instead wage violence against those who don't believe what you believe; that's a communist way of thinking and that should never be socially acceptable.
Take a look at how religion rejects the LGBT Community.
Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
Homophobia: dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Hate speech is speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits.
“If we want to defend the centuries-old understanding of marriage, we should start by looking carefully at what God has to say about it. When we speak of the "sanctity of marriage," we mean to say that marriage is a holy and sacred institution created not by man, but by God. That means that no matter what legislators or justices say, the definition of marriage is not ours to tamper with.”
God didn’t create marriage we did. Marriage was once seen as a social contract between two people to keep a bloodline going; keep an inheritance within a family and to keep a last name going. Most importantly it was seen as a union of two people who loved each other and wanted to spend their lives together. “No matter what legislators or justices say the definition of marriage is not ours to tamper with?” We created marriage not god! Secondly I’m glad the government has finally stepped in and said it is unconstitutional to ban gay marriage and it is also unconstitutional to use your religion to deny that right to the LGBT community. It’s fine that you don’t agree with someone being gay but it’s not okay to openly hate and use your religion as a justification to spew your hatred.
Marriage can and should be redefined because it was once illegal for interracial couples to get married and now that gay marriage is deemed unconstitutional to ban, we are redefining it again. Sorry to tell you that the world you once knew is changing and this is a great accomplishment allowing gay couples the right to get married. This should’ve been granted a long time ago!
“First, we in the Christian community need to apologize for the way we have interacted with the LGBT community. As those who have been forgiven by God through Christ's sacrificial death on our behalf, we must exhibit the love of Christ to all men and women. We can stand for the truth and be loving at the same time. This we must do.
Second, our authority to speak to the needs of our nation today is the Word of God. The Scriptures teach that there are absolutes and that there is such a thing as right and wrong. Truth is never tolerant of a lie. The real battleground around this debate on homosexual marriage begins with the question: Who is your authority? We believe that the timeless truth of Holy Scripture gives us the authoritative blueprints for life. We respect those who wish to deny the truth of Scripture. We would ask for a mutual respect in return.”
Yes you are correct it is your job to go out and spread the word of god; but what you fail to realize is that our government shouldn’t be promoting an ideology of any shape or form. I would be offended if the government made radical claims suggesting that there is no god. The only job the government has regarding religion is protection of and protection from religion. No, you shouldn’t proselytize to those who don’t want to hear it, yes you have the right to worship whatever god you choose as long as it doesn’t infringe upon the rights of others then it becomes a problem.
How can you ask for mutual respect in return when you are basically telling gay people that they can’t get married because of god! It angers me that you can sit here and say it’s okay for you to dictate someone else’s life because your bible tells you it’s okay. Well it’s not okay! Freedom of and freedom from religion remember that!
“ It's important to emphasize two things here. First, marriage is not about us; it's about God. From the beginning our purpose—as individuals and as couples in marriage—is to glorify God. We were created with the capacity to enjoy a relationship with God and to love and serve Him. As Jesus says in Matthew 22:37, the greatest commandment is, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind."
It’s important to emphasize something here, marriage was not created by god and if you want your marriage to be about god that is fine. However, we live in a society where people get married because they love each other and want to spend their lives together. I don’t understand why we keep having this same discussion over and over again? Not everyone believes in your god and to throw bible verses at them saying this is why gay people can’t get married is plain stupid. You have your religious views? Cool great; but do us all a favor and keep them to your fucking self.
“Second, God ties His image to human sexuality. Marking human beings as distinct from the rest of creation, Genesis 1 says "In the image of God He created him—male and female He created them." In other words, our gender differences as men and women are part of how we understand who God is.”
Let’s look at the creation of man. Adam was created from dirt and Eve was created from the rib of Adam. We don’t see people just popping into existence from bones and dirt; also let’s just tell the truth because the bible does a good job at it. Adam was created to be a robot and Eve was just a baby factory who has no voice and no rights. Created in the image of god? We don’t even know if god does or doesn’t exist and there is no empirical data to suggest otherwise. Please use your brain!
“Homosexuals have suggested for years that their practice is an acceptable alternative lifestyle. Many claim that their sexual attraction is something they were born with. Some have even suggested that God made them as homosexuals. While the impact of nature vs. nurture can be debated, God makes it clear in Scripture that acting on homosexual attraction is sin.”
“The practice of homosexuality isn't a preference or an uncontrollable desire—it's actually a stark confirmation of a person's rebellion against the Designer. Romans 1:21-27 tells us that, as humans failed to honor God, their "foolish heart was darkened" and "they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator ... For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."
“The issue of sexual behavior isn't a matter of simple preference. Our sexual choices and behavior reflect on the image and glory of God. Our stand against homosexuality is ultimately a stand for the wisdom and perfection of the created design and a choice to honor the Designer.”
People who are gay are gay because they are rebelling against god? What kind of drugs are you on to even come to a conclusion like this? Science has proven that being gay is not a choice and shouldn’t be treated like that. In fact being gay was once considered a mental illness because people used their bible as a weapon to openly discriminate and justify their ignorance. Sexual orientation is not a preference; no one wakes up and says oh I used to be gay but now I’m not. I’m going to date women and be heterosexual. No! No! No! That is not how the world works! Again what if I don’t believe in your god? All you’ve said here is say that the LGBT lifestyle is invalid and they hate god. Nice job on the straw man and insult of a whole community of people who by the way don’t hate your god. They just hate the concept of him and how he is used to discriminate against people.
A second purpose for marriage is to produce children. In Genesis 1:28 when God commands Adam and Eve, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth..." The most obvious aspect of this command is that God designed male and female to join physically and reproduce children. Procreation is an integral part of God's design for marriage.
In addition, God set up the family as one of his primary institutions (the other being the Church) to tell each succeeding generation about who He is and how they can know Him. God's original plan called for the home to be a sort of greenhouse—a nurture center where children grow up to learn character, values, and integrity. Psalm 78 instructs parents to teach their children to "...put their confidence in God and not forget the works of God, but keep His commandments..."
This training in obedience is not only an essential responsibility of the family, but it also is designed to be an outgrowth of the marriage. Research studies make it clear that a stable family with both father and mother provides the best environment for children to thrive, mature, and become responsible citizens of any nation and culture.
Male-male or female-female relationships cannot produce children unless something extraordinary is done to assist them. While it is true that gay couples can raise children, and can adopt needy children, they will not, however, multiply a godly legacy when they are living in rebellion to God. In addition, gay couples cannot model what God designed for a child to experience growing up: a complete picture of a male and female completing one another in the marriage relationship. Children were made by God to be nurtured by the love of a mother and a father from birth.
Marriage is about sharing your life with the person you love and if you so happen to want children then that’s fine. However, the only purpose of marriage is not to have children because you are basically shaming every sterile couple who cannot physically have children and this time I won’t bring up an elderly couple. What if a couple doesn’t want children? Are you going to shame them too? Why is marriage about glorifying god and producing children? But not once did you ever mention these people actually want to glorify him or if they actually even believe in him.
There are families with no mom present and vice versa. Some kinds don’t even have both parents at all in their life and they are raised by a grandparent or a sibling. It really is cruel to say that they don’t have a family because it doesn’t fit your biblical standards of what a family should be. Science has proven that a kid can be raised by two people of the same-sex and grow up just like kids who have parents of the opposite sex. Training to glorify god? Please don’t indoctrinate kids into religion until they are fully aware and able to make their own decisions regarding religion. Kids aren’t born hating they learn to hate from their parents. I just hope if you have kids that they don’t take this type of view on marriage; especially a marriage not harming other people.
AGAIN!!! What if the couple is sterile and incapable of having a child on their own? What if the couple doesn’t want a CHILD! Marriage isn’t about having CHIDLREN!!!! Also just because two people of the same-sex can’t physically have a child doesn’t give you the green light to DENY THEM MARRIAGE! Please get it through your thick skull.
“These passages in Genesis 1 and 2 also make it clear that God not only created the institution of marriage, but He also is intimately involved in bringing a husband and wife together physically through the act of intercourse in marriage. He gave Adam a helper specifically designed for him. God designed a man and a woman to complete one another and He commanded them to become "one flesh." As Jesus said, just after quoting from Genesis 1:27, "So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate" (Matthew 19:6).”
“Male and female were created to be complementary to one another in every way—from their emotional and spiritual needs to their anatomical structure. While same-sex couples may attempt to experience some aspects of this "completion," they nevertheless are maintaining a lifestyle built around a sexual rebellion against God. In most cases, this will lead to an inability to make the type of commitment God desires in marriage. Studies show, for example, that even when homosexual men commit themselves to a partner, many still regularly engage in sex with other men several times a year.”
“The physical act of a husband and wife becoming one within marriage is easily understood. They were designed by God for one another. However, two men or two women were not designed by God to become one flesh with one another. The physical joining of two men or two women is not a natural act.”
God is very sexist and do you want to know why? Well let’s start with the story of Adam and Eve and how they fucked up and sinned; even though they weren’t created without a sense of right and wrong. God banished them from the Garden of Eden and punished both of them with mortality and he made child birth for Eve painful. Continue reading the bible and you’ll learn that women aren’t to be trusted because apparently they are all backstabbers and are only objects used to pop out babies. They have no voice and must marry their rapist if they get married; also they can be stoned to death if they aren’t a virgin.
Please tell me more about how two men and two women can’t have a meaningful relationship and they weren’t designed by god; yes also tell me how the world is less than 10,000 years old and god spoke the universe into existence. I find this to be so much more factual than two people who love each other of the same-sex wanting to spend their lives together. How dare they want to be happy? That’s a sin!
Science has proven that being gay is not a choice and is perfectly natural. Being a bigot is a choice however, as well as being homophobic, ignorant and stupid.
“An unselfish commitment to God and to each other is the foundation of a godly home and the bedrock of a stable culture. The more we seek to redefine marriage, and chip away at God's original design for the home, the more we put our families and our nation at risk.”
“This debate about same-sex marriage is the latest outgrowth of a culture that for decades has been drifting from biblical standards of truth and morality. The sexual revolution, for example, sought to bring legitimacy to sex outside of marriage. The women's liberation movement worked to revolutionize the roles of men and women in marriage and in our society. Throw in a rising emphasis on materialism and personal happiness, and you end up with a dramatically new way of looking at marriage. In her book, The Divorce Culture, Barbara Dafoe Whitehead writes:”
“... Americans began to change their ideas about the individual's obligations to family and society. Broadly described, this change was away from an ethic of obligation to others and toward an obligation to self... This ethical shift had a profound impact on ideas about the nature and purpose of the family... People began to judge the strength and "health" of family bonds according to their capacity to promote individual fulfillment and personal growth.”
“When millions of Americans view marriage from the mindset of "What's in it for me?" concepts like responsibility, self-sacrifice, and lifelong commitment become secondary. Is it any wonder that our divorce rate is so high? Or that the number of children born outside of marriage continues to rise? Or that an increasing number of couples are opting to live together instead of marrying?”
“And now the continuing push to legalize same-sex marriage is seeking to redefine marriage even further. From the moment God created marriage, it was designed with a man and woman in mind. God designed two sexes male and female—He did not create four sexes. Same-sex marriage cannot fulfill God's purposes for marriage.”
I’m personally glad we’ve chipped away from the so called ‘godly home’ because if you look at the way homes were in the bible they were pretty terrible. People were forced to marry people they didn’t love because that’s what god wanted? Also if you look at the way men treated women and how women are depicted in the bible it’s just awful. Please tell me how you want to revert back to the dark ages? Gay marriage was deemed unconstitutional to ban because it infringes on the rights of the LGBT community. We have a separation of church and state for a reason! Please open your mind and look at this not from a biblical stand point but from an actual person’s stand point. How would you feel if I came to your wedding and said you couldn’t get married because it offends me? You would what still get married am I correct? Now what gives you the authority to tell someone else they can’t get married your bible? That’s not a credible source!
'Homosexuality injures the fabric of society, especially children.'
Allowing two consenting adults the right to get married is going to injure society how? Telling someone who they can and can't love is harmful to society because it ruins morale. Especially if that love isn't harming other people. What two adults do in the privacy of their bedroom is none of anyone's business but their own. Stop using your religion to shame people just because of your bible.
'Homosexuality is anti-procreation.'
What about the couples who can't have children, or the couples who don't want children? What you basically are saying here is the only reason for two people to get married is to have children. The bible says that man is robot and woman is baby factory and marriage is not to be expressed for the love between two individuals. It's sad that we have to use our religion to discriminate against other people because they don't follow your religious dogma. It's one thing that you have your ideals of marriage and no one is trying to take that away from you, but when you are trying to take the rights away from other people please do expect to be heavily criticized because what you are saying is wrong! Marriage should be between two people who love each other whether it is two men or two women. We should not be shaming people with our religion and saying you can't get married because its for children and not out of love.
'Homosexuality does not offer the stability of a traditional family.'
Do you have any proof of this? I've seen many same-sex couples with children and the children are happy and grow up like every other child. Just because it takes man and a woman can create a child doesn't mean they have what it takes to raise that child. Science even proves that a child can be raised by a single parent or even by a same-sex couple and grow up just like every other child. Denying a child the chance to have a loving and supportive family because it doesn't follow within your guidelines of what a family should be is just plain cruel.
'Homosexuals have a higher incidence of infidelity.'
And heterosexual couples are just the poster children of what a real marriage should be right? Wrong! They are heterosexual couples who are in open marriages there are heterosexual couples that cheat as well. Get off your high horse and use some common sense! You put heterosexuality on a silver platter like it goes with no flaws when in reality there many flaws, especially those who use their bible to try and make themselves look better than they are.
'Homosexuals have a shortened lifespan.'
Do you have any proof of to back such a radical claim? No I don't think you do and you can't use AIDS/HIV because it isn't something only gay people get. Heterosexual couples can spread it too you know, this is why they say always wear protection. Your bible is the reason why so many gay people have short lifespan because it tells you to stone people to death for being gay!! It's your bible that leads to people of the LGBT community to taking their own lives because some people rather be dead than to be who they are. It's sad that as a society if you are in the LBGT community you are frowned upon for something you can't control. You can control being an asshole and this statement further proves that!
'Homosexuals have a much higher incidence of domestic violence.'
Again where is the proof? Your bible surely doesn't say you shouldn't beat your wife. In fact there are tons of religions that say that it is okay to beat your wife if she doesn't submit to your sexually or if she doesn't do what you tell her to. There are heterosexual couples who exhibit domestic violence and often display it in front of their children and it has a negative impact on them because they see this and think that it is perfectly okay to do when they are older and in a relationship with someone. Domestic violence is not okay in anyway shape or form, but to blame this on same-sex couples and say they are most likely to exhibit this is just down right cruel. You really do have your information completely obscured and just want to make your religion and bible look so much more better than it really is.
'Homosexuals have a much higher rate of molestation than heterosexuals.'
This statement really does make me angry because it is completely and utterly untrue. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean that they want to molest children! I've seen so many heterosexuals exhibit molestation and even in the bible men were allowed to take young virgin girls as their wives and they had to submit to them sexually. Please do tell me how only gay people molest children and heterosexuals don't do any of the such. Yes you really are delusional aren't you?
'Homosexuality is not condoned in the bible.'
You can't eat shellfish. You can't mix fabrics. You can't trim your beard. You must honor Sabbath Day. You can't commit adultery. You can't go to a fortune teller. You can't eat pork. Shall I say more? We all know that you can't get your morale from the bible it isn't a good source of that. Otherwise we'd stoning people to death and reverting back to the dark ages. Jesus never preached against gay marriage!
'Homosexuals want to redefine marriage, changing the uniqueness of heterosexual marriage.'
If you believe marriage should be between one man and one woman that's fine! No one is trying to take your opinion away from you, however when your opinion infringes on the rights of other people then it becomes a problem. Why do you care so much that two men or two women are getting married? You don't have to get married to someone of the same-sex unless you are hoarding feelings for someone of the same-sex.
'Homosexual marriages will lead to other unnatural unions.'
Object sexuality does exist and there are tons of people married to landmarks, inanimate objects and including themselves. Polygamy does exist as well. Please don't tell me that your marriage is will be ruined when there are couples who get divorced right after getting married and having the whole marriage annulled like it never happened. It's one thing to want to protect your ideals on marriage and it's another to infringe on the rights of others who have no direct correlation to your life. Gay people deserve the right to be married like everyone else. Marriage is a human right. Bestiality will never be accepted because it is not two consenting adults and to say that this is your way of justifying your hate of others who aren't harming people really shows your ignorance on the subject.
‘I think that gay marriage should be between a man and a woman.’
There are many people who feel the same way and that’s fine. You are entitled to your opinion but sometimes your opinion is best kept to yourself. Two men or two women whom love each other shouldn’t have to live their life the way you want them. Love cannot be dictated. Your marriage ideals should be kept to yourself and not forced onto others.
‘Marriage equality is a threat to the nation’s survival long run.’
What you are saying is; allowing gay marriage means that everyone will turn gay and no one will be having children? Because we all know if you’re looking at the bible for morale you want to revert to the dark ages when man is robot and woman is baby factory. Marriage is a basic human right and I can’t believe that even after the ruling to allow same-sex marriage in all fifty states people somehow think they have to marry someone of the same sex. What are you secretly gay? You can’t convert someone’s sexuality unless you’ve been holding feelings towards the same sex inside.
‘Same-sex marriage is like counterfeit money.’
Christian ignorance at its finest! How can you tell someone that what they have between them and their partner isn’t real because it doesn’t fit your biblical standards? Marriage is marriage whether it is between two men or two women. No should dictate who you love, if that love isn’t harming other people.
‘Hurricane Sandy was a divine justice triggered by the recognition of same-sex marriage in New York.’
I’m at a loss for words here. Do you know how many people died in this hurricane? Do you know how many people’s livelihood that was ruined because of this hurricane? Blaming same-sex marriage for the cause of natural disasters is such an awful thing to say; but then again if you get your morals from the bible I’m not surprised by your views at all. It’s okay to punish all people even those who don’t agree with same sex marriage. Let the blood be shed of innocent people because two people of the same gender want to get married. When gay marriage was legalized in Canada nothing happened there people still lived their lives like normal.
"If gays are granted rights, next we'll have to give rights to prostitutes and to people who sleep with St. Bernard’s and to nail biters."
Apparently nail biters can’t get married? Also I if I face palm myself any harder I’m going to knock myself unconscious. Seriously! You are protecting a book that says rape is okay as long as you marry the victim. Yes because every women or man wants to marry the person who raped them. Don’t even think about divorce you’re stuck together for life. Prostitution existed in the bible too and well quite frankly the way it was tolerated was just awful. Bestiality is just illegal and will never be accepted as a norm. Your argument here is flawed.
‘I think it’s a conundrum. If we have no laws on this, people take it one extension further, does it have to be humans, you know?’
Object sexuality does exist you know! There are people married to cars, landmarks and even a video game characters. Gay marriage didn’t cause any of this to happen, in fact these people were granted marriage licenses and yet two adults (humans) of the same sex that wanted to share their lives together were denied that for so long. Clearly you need a reality check because you are delusional.
‘Same-sex marriage will lead to fathers marrying sons.’
Have you even read your bible? There is so much incest in the bible that it’s not even funny it’s fucking scary! Allowing two people the right to get married of the same sex will not lead to dads marrying their sons. Pedophilia also exists in the bible too. The kidnapping of young virgins forced to submit to their kidnapper sexually and become their wife; all of these things existed and gay marriage wasn’t allowed. It’s sad how we still have to have the same arguments over and over again relating to the topic of gay marriage.
‘Europe, which gave us the idea of same-sex marriage, is a dying society, with birthrates 50 percent below replacement.’
Radical claims require radical proof. There is more evidence that suggest same-sex marriage going back to Ancient Egypt not Europe. Secondly there is no population crisis in Europe.
Ancient Rome there were same-sex couples and many people didn’t look down upon this practice. The holiday we know as Christmas was a pagan holiday in Rome in which men would have sex with each other. The down fall of the Roman Empire, well part of the reason, was the spread of Christianity and how people were stoned to death because it dictates your life and tells you who you can and can’t love.
‘Christians must engage in spiritual warfare to combat same-sex marriage.’
Why? I thought being a Christian meant that you showed love and tolerance of other people; and what you are showing is none of the above. Especially if you are telling someone what they have between them and their partners aren’t real and that they should go to hell because your bible says its wrong. This is why we have separation of church and state. Keep your religion to yourself and stop trying to convert people who don’t want to be converted. Spiritual warfare, what are we living in the dark ages? This is why we have so many problems in the world now. Everyone thinks their religion is right and no one wants to accept the possibility that they all maybe wrong.
‘My analysis is that gays are about 5 percent of the attack on marriage in this country, and the feminist are about 95 percent.”
Your analysis is wrong and completely stupid. Do you want to know why? Feminist have been fighting to have equal rights among women and the LGBT community have been fighting to have equal rights of the LBGT community and both have nothing to do with each other. There are people whom are not gay/lesbian helping the fight and there are men helping feminist as well. Your sight is very one sighted and pretty narrow-minded. Please open your horizons and stop looking to bible for your answers.
The same arguments used against interracial marriage were used and again that was deemed unconstitutional to ban. Same happened with gay marriage; we redefined it because we created marriage not god! I’m so happy we as a society have moved forward so radically and seeing gay marriage allowed in all fifty states proves that we are shifting away from religious views and the government isn’t promoting an ideology. You keep throwing god in every argument as if that’s going to make it any more valid. It’s one thing to oppose but it’s another to oppose and not have a real reason because quite frankly I can say your god is an asshole because he rather force people to live the way he wants even though he created free will; also god isn’t even good source of morale because he’s had people do unspeakable things in the bible especially in the old testament. You’re opposed to two people loving each other? I’m opposed to you spewing hatred and being discriminatory towards those who have no effect on your life.