We find an article that causes dismay

I decided to respond to reasons to not date an atheist.

Before you begin reading, I just want it to be known that this is just satire; if you believe in ‘God’ that’s fine. However, unless you are dating someone whom shares your religious beliefs, it really shouldn’t matter what beliefs your partner shares. If you care about this person and want to be with them, you will accept both their strengths and their flaws. Religion shouldn’t be the only reason you date someone, otherwise you are the most shallow person on Earth.  

God won’t be the center of your relationship.

[God shouldn’t be the center of your relationship! Unless you two are okay with it, I don’t see why this is necessary. In fact, the center of your relationship should be you and your partner.]

God should be the center of everything, including a relationship. Couples and families are supposed to pray together.

[The only time this is mandatory is if both people share similar beliefs. However, if you find yourself in love with someone who doesn’t believe, you have to accept them for who they are if they are accepting your beliefs in return. It’s a two way street here!]

It’s what keeps the union strong. Imagine dating someone who doesn’t care for a hobby or an interest you’re passionate about. Don’t you want to share that hobby with the person you may spend the rest of your life with?

[This is why you have friends to share those hobbies with. The person you are dating may try to participate with you in the hobbies you love, but if they don’t find them enjoyable like you do it’s fine. But it’s pretty shallow to dump someone for something so petty.]

Well, God should be at the top of your list of passions, and if the guy you date doesn’t care about the most important entity in your life, where will that lead?

[Well, it’s going to lead to you being alone unless you date someone with similar beliefs as you. ‘God’ can be at the top of your list and the end of your list, the middle wherever! That shouldn’t be the only reason you are dating a person. Otherwise you are very shallow when it comes to dating.]

There’s no guarantee that a nonbeliever will become a believer.

[The only time this is acceptable is if the person you are dating is interested in sharing your beliefs and wants you to go more in depth. However, if you do so happen to date a non-believer than that’s fine as well. But please don’t make it your mission to convert that person because that will ruin your relationship. You want to accept someone for their strengths and flaws; so what if you don’t share similar religious views. That shouldn’t be the only reason to date someone it’s shallow for fuck sake!]

Oftentimes, we’re so in love with someone that we will set aside our differences, or worse, we’ll vow to change the guy, right? Wrong! Never plan to change any guy to fit you. Sure, maybe your faith will inspire him to find Christ, but what if it doesn’t? Then what?

[You accept that person for whom they are and stop this endless bullshit!

And even if he does find Christ, there’s no guarantee that he will become a devoted believer who desires to know, love and serve Christ as you do. There are more Christians in this world than there are true believers. Your guy may just become a Christian in name.

[So far all I’ve gotten from you is that you want someone to be a devote Christian and even if you convert the person into similar beliefs, they aren’t ‘Christian’ enough only by name. I can’t understand why it’s so important for someone to be a ‘Christian’ or why you can’t date a non-believer. If you care about this person and want to spend your life with them, and they are willing to accept your beliefs you should be able to accept their lack of belief. It’s not hard!]

It will be difficult to do God’s will with a nonbeliever.

[No, not really! You and your partner can share many things you enjoy doing. It doesn’t mean that you have to be a Christian to enjoy them. Secondly, what do you mean by God’s Will? This is just stupid, sorry but even I have my limits.]

If we date nonbelievers, how is God’s will to be done together? You’ll have to do God’s work alone. You’ll feel uncomfortable talking about God and your guy may feel left out when you’re hanging with your Christian friends.

[This is why you have your friends; you talk to them about your religious beliefs. Secondly, you shouldn’t make your partner feel uncomfortable because your partner wouldn’t do the same to you if the situation was in reverse. This is so ridiculous! It’s like oh no my boyfriend is an atheist and all my friends are Christians. He’s going to feel so awkward when we talk about ‘God’. Talk about other things! I mean you do have other hobbies right? Or is God the only thing you are capable of talking about? No wonder you’re fucking single! No one wants to sit and talk about ‘God’ all day no matter how much of a devote you are.]

When a couple is not fully devoted to God together, there may be disagreements or compromises about faith. But worse, a nonbeliever won’t support you in doing God’s will, and may even convince you to turn away from Christ altogether.

[The only time this becomes an issue is when you try to enforce your beliefs onto someone else. I understand that religion maybe important to you, but unless you find someone with the same priorities this is just ridiculous. You won’t see eye to eye on many things as a couple, but that’s normal for a relationship. Nothing is perfect! It’s like you just want a puppet to say ‘yes’ to everything you desire, no difference of opinion and of course we atheists are terrible people. We want to pull you away from your god. There are nonbelievers who do date those who believe and respect their beliefs and vice versa. Why is this such a hard concept for you? Seriously!]

Your marriage won’t be as successful as God intends it to be.

[Your marriage is only a successful if you make it that way. God cannot fix your problems and he isn’t fixing your problems, you are!]

 If you, as a devoted believer, decide to marry a nonbeliever, your marriage won’t be focused on God. And when you’re not focused on God, your marriage will be a struggle.

[This is the most fucking awful thing I have ever heard. Your marriage won’t be good unless ‘God’ is in your marriage dictating every aspect of your relationship. What’s the point of marrying someone else when you can just marry ‘God’? You can be focused on ‘God’ and you can worship him every single day, what I don’t understand is why you can’t have a relationship with someone whom is an atheists? All of your excuses are solely based on being taken away from your ‘God’. We atheists don’t give a flying fuck who you worship, it’s when you come and attack us for not believing; that’s when we defend ourselves and that’s when you get mad because we still don’t want to entertain your bullshit. I personally would date someone who believed in ‘God’ but the moment it is being forced on to me to believe that’s when we will have problems.]

We respond to articles on the internet

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I decided to respond to an article I found on the internet that list reasons why he won’t buy a luxury car. I understand that some people just don’t want to have a flashy car, but these few people don’t understand that regardless of what car you own, people will have some type of pre-judgement about you regardless, and with that being said let’s jump right in. Six reasons why I don’t want to own a luxury car. 

People will assume things about me that I don’t want them to assume.

[It won’t matter what car you own, people will have some form of assumption about you. Whether you buy a $90k BMW or a $20k Kia, people will assume things about you that aren’t even true. You bought a new car you must have money, etc. If you want that BMW buy it, or if you want that really nice Volkswagen buy it. We only live once and to allow assumptions of other people to dictate what car you drive is pretty stupid. People will assume things about you whether you drive new or not. It’s up to you if you choose to listen to those people or not.]

I become a more obvious target for theft.
[The most stolen new car is a Nissan Altima and the most stolen used car is a 1996 Honda Accord. Both of these vehicles are far from being luxurious. I also looked up the most stolen luxury car and that’s a Mercedes S-class, now that we’ve gotten that out of the way. Older cars tend to be a higher target for theft because they are easier to steal due to lack of theft protection. Also, there are some older vehicles with parts that are much easier to sell and make a profit off of, as with most luxury cars the parts are marked which makes them harder to sell because some parts can’t be reused on any other car once removed. I don’t understand your ‘target’ reason for not wanting a luxury car. You can have a Honda and be a target; you could have a Kia and be a target. Thieves go after the easiest cars they can get their hands on.]

Depreciation is even more painful.
[It depends upon the brand you buy from. Audi and BMWs tend to hold their value way better than let’s say Mercedes or Maserati. Most cars depreciate the most within the first three years of ownership. So, unless you’re leasing your cars and give them back so you won’t have to worry about the hit in depreciation, this reason is also a weak one.]

I have to travel much further to get repairs done.
[No matter what car you purchase, some repairs will have to be done at the dealership and yes you will have to travel to the dealership. I’d rather make the drive to the dealership and get my vehicle properly fixed under warranty than to go to my mechanic who may or may not know how to work on newer vehicles with all these high tech features. You can buy a new Kia and still have to take it to the dealer for certain repairs.]

The normal behavior of children is more costly.
[Leather seats are actually a lot easier to clean than you’d think. Cloth seats tend to absorb moisture which makes them harder to clean if your kids spill juice on them. Regardless if I have a Honda Pilot or Mercedes GL, I will be very upset if my kids spilled juice in the car. This is why if you have kids in the car, buy spill proof products for them or have them wait until they are at home or at the destination you are intended to go to.]


I would be scared to breathe in it.
[So what you’re saying is, you’d feel better in a $20k Kia? Here’s my thing about this statement here, you can have a new car and have that new car anxiety. You can have a used car still have that same exact anxiety. When you switch from one car to another, you have to readapt yourself to that particular vehicle all over again. It doesn’t matter if it’s an Audi, Mercedes or BMW. When you buy a new car you have to readapt to that vehicle because it’s a totally different vehicle. I fear people hitting my car and I drive a $20k Mitsubishi. It doesn’t matter the price of the vehicle, the fear of others being jealous of what you have is an actual fear for anyone.]

BMW 3 Series

The BMW 3 Series is a line of compact executive cars manufactured by the German automaker BMW since May 1975. It is the successor to the 02 Series and has been produced in seven different generations. The first generation of the 3 Series was only available as a 2-door saloon; however, the model range has since expanded to include a 4-door saloon, 2-door convertible, 2-door coupé, 5-door estate, 5-door liftback ("Gran Turismo") and 3-door hatchback body styles. Since 2013, the coupé and convertible models have been marketed as the 4 Series; therefore, the 3 Series range no longer includes these body styles.

The 3 Series is BMW's best-selling model, accounting for around 30% of the BMW brand's annual total sales (excluding motorbikes), and has won numerous awards throughout its history. The M version of the 3 series, M3, debuted with the E30 M3 in 1986. The E21 replaced the 02 Series and was initially available as a 2-door sedan (also described as coupé). At launch, all models used carburetted 4-cylinder engines; however, fuel-injected models were introduced in late 1975 and 6-cylinder engines were added in 1977. A cabriolet body style – manufactured by Baur – was available from 1978 to 1981.

On introduction in 1982, the E30 was produced solely in the 2-door sedan body style. Four-door sedan models were introduced in 1983, convertibles were introduced in 1985 and estate ("Touring") models were introduced in 1987. The E30 was the first 3 Series to be available in wagon and 4-door sedan body styles. It was also the first 3 Series to offer a diesel engine, and all-wheel drive was introduced to the 3 Series range with the 325iX model. The BMW Z1 roadster was based on the E30 platform. The first BMW M3 was built on the E30 platform. The E30 M3 is powered by the high-revving S14 four-cylinder petrol engine, which produced 175 kW (235 hp) in its final European-only iteration.

The E36 was sold in the following body styles: sedan, coupé, convertible, wagon (marketed as "Touring") and hatchback (marketed as "3 Series Compact"). The E36 was the first 3 Series to be offered in a hatchback body style. It was also the first 3 Series to be available with a 6-speed manual transmission (in the 1996 M3), a 5-speed automatic transmission and a four-cylinder diesel engine. The multi-link rear suspension was also a significant upgrade compared with previous generations of the 3 Series. The E36 was named in Car and Driver magazine's 10Best list for every year it was on sale. The M3 model is powered by the S50 and S52 straight-six engines. It was sold in coupe, sedan and convertible body styles. The BMW Z3 roadster and coupe models were based on the E36 platform.

The E46 was sold in the following body styles: sedan, coupé, convertible, wagon (marketed as "Touring") and hatchback (marketed as "3 Series Compact"). The E46 generation introduced various electronic features to the 3 Series, including satellite navigation, electronic brake-force distribution, rain-sensing wipers and LED tail-lights. All-wheel drive, last available in the E30 3 Series, was reintroduced for the E46. It was available for the 325xi and 330xi sedan/wagon models. The E46 was the first 3 Series to be available with an engine using variable valve lift ("valvetronic"). The M3 version of the E46 was powered by the S54 straight-six engine and was available in coupé and convertible body styles (other than that, it was powered with the M52 or M54 in non-M3 cars). The transmissions available were a 6-speed manual or the 6-speed "SMG-II" sequential manual gearbox.

The fifth generation 3 Series was produced in the sedan, wagon, coupé and cabriolet body styles. Due to the separate model codes for each body style, the term "E9X" is sometimes used to describe this generation of the 3 Series. In 2006, the 335i became the first 3 Series model to be sold with a turbocharged gasoline engine. The E90 also saw the introduction of run-flat tires to the 3 Series range. Consequently, cars with run-flats are not equipped with a spare tire. The E90/E92/E93 M3 was powered by the BMW S65 V8 engine. It was released in 2007 and was produced in sedan, coupe and cabriolet body styles. Production of the fifth-generation BMW 3 Series ended in 2013.

The F30/F31/F35 has been produced in the sedan, coupé, convertible, station wagon and 5-door hatchback ("Gran Turismo") body styles. A long wheelbase sedan is also available in China. For the F30/F31/F34 series, the coupe and convertible models were produced from 2013 year until 2014 when they were split from the 3 Series, redesigned, and sold as the BMW 4 Series. A new body style was introduced into the 3 Series range: the 3 Series Gran Turismo, a long-wheelbase hatchback. The F30/F31/F34 was the first time that the entire 3 Series range used turbocharged engines. In 2016, a plug-in hybrid drivetrain was first used in the 3 Series, in the 330e model. Also in 2016, a 3-cylinder engine was used for the first time in a 3 Series. The M3 version (designated F80, the first time an M3 has used a separate model designation) was released in 2014 and is powered by the S55 twin-turbo straight-6 engine. Production ended in 2019 with the end of F31 Touring production in June.

The BMW 3 Series (G20) was unveiled at the 2018 Paris Motor Show on October 2, 2018. The official images of the vehicle were revealed a day prior to its unveiling. The seventh generation of the 3 Series is also offered as a station wagon. The more powerful M3 and M3 Competition variants were delivered globally starting in 2021.

The M3 is the most powerful version of the 3 Series, developed by BMW's in-house motorsport division, BMW M. M3 models have been derived from the E30, E36, E46, E90/E92/E93, and F30 (designated F80) 3 series, and sold with coupe, sedan and convertible body styles. Upgrades over the "standard" 3 Series automobiles include more powerful and responsive engines, improved handling/suspension/braking systems, aerodynamic body enhancements, lightweight components, and interior/exterior accents with the tri-colour "M" (Motorsport) emblem. The last M3 coupe was produced in Germany on 5 July 2013, replaced by the F82/F83 M4 Coupe and convertible starting with the 2015 model year, but the M3 name remains in use for the sedan version. The new generation M3 was reintroduced in 2021, codenamed G80 from the 7th generation 3 Series. The 3 Series has been on Car and Driver magazine's annual 10Best list 22 times, from 1992 through 2014, making it the longest running entry in the list. In their December 2009 issue, Grassroots Motorsports magazine named the BMW 3 Series as the second-most important performance car built during the previous 25 years. In January 2021, the BMW 330e M Sport (M Sport Pro Package) was named Executive Car of the Year by What Car? magazine. What Car? awarded the 3 Series five stars out of five in its review of the car. The plug-in hybrid version of the car was the UK's best-selling plug-in hybrid car of 2021 having achieved 10,979 new registrations throughout the year, beating the Mercedes A-Class by over 4,000 registrations.

K900 (Kia 900?)

The appeal of luxury cars all fall in the badge. Certainly buyers choosing a Rolls Royce couldn’t give two fucks about running costs. However, what if you want it all but your wallet says ‘no’. You can certainly have win-win success with the Kia K900.

Even the V6 Premium trim comes with loads of luxury features for the money. The real question however is should you spend your hard earned money on one? We’re here to help.

The standard 3.8 six-cylinder is smooth and offers tons of punch and flexibility while the 5-liter eight-cylinder takes things to a whole new level. It certainly is a firecracker of an engine with no shortage of power, and certainly is a class rarity considering that most of its supposed ‘keen’ rivals are switching to turbo six-cylinder engines. Pick of the range is the 3.8 as it fits the price tag nicely. If you were considering something like a BMW 5-series but the version that you are seeking costs $70k or more, the K900 has more space and more refinement than the 5-series and the only reason to really ignore the K900 is the Kia Badge.

Driving the K900 is simply a real treat. It may not be as driver focused as we’d like, but it doesn’t try to be something that it isn’t. The interior feels posh with very little wind and road noise to complain of. The suspension offers the comfort and agility that makes it feel easy to drive around town and is quick on its toes on the highway. The 3.8 is enough but for those who feel luxury also accounts for size of engine, the 5-liter is an excellent choice none the less. We certainly enjoyed driving the K900 around town and certainly felt more rewarded knowing we what we are driving is far cheaper than some Audi, BMW and Mercedes.

The interior of the K900 lives up to the price tag and can actually be seen as classier than the top German three automakers. What we love the most is the attention to detail. The plastics used are soft to the touch and feel long lasting. The infotainment screen is decently easy to navigate through, although we always recommend getting used to using it first before even attempting to navigate through it while on the go. (Remember always keep both eyes on the road.)

The front seats offer plenty of comfort and adjustability while those in the rear seat will be treated to oodles of leg and headroom. The boot space is generous in space too; even though we certainly wish it were a hatchback like the Audi A7 to increase practicality.


The V6 Premium is the entry-level trim and makes the most sense financially. You get 9.2-inch touch screen infotainment screen, ventilated leather front seats, auto-folding wing mirrors and HID headlights which are fully automatic. V6 Luxury adds Nappa leather seating surfaces, and real wood console trim. Top of the range V8 Luxury adds a 12.3 inch instrument cluster, surround view monitoring system and LED headlights with dynamic bending light. We’ve stated previously that the 3.8 is provides enough in terms of flexibility and decent running costs. You can step up to the 5-liter if you want all the bells and whistles. It may be steep for a Kia but if value for the money is something you’re seeking, this is one of the best options out there.

The K900 is the complete opposite of what a Kia should be. It’s the most expensive of the range and offers the most refined engine options. You’ll certainly want to consider the resale value which isn’t strong and certainly you’ll want to remember that despite having the nice interior and high standard kit list, it’s still a Kia. Badge snobbery is real and if that’s the only reason you’d consider Audi, BMW and Mercedes over anything else. We’d certainly call you daft because there are options out there that may not have the badge appeal but certainly provide compelling reasons to consider them.

Likes: The standard kit is high, the interior is classy and the price tag is within reason and logic.

Dislikes: Residuals are more on the questionable side. It has to deal with badge snobbery.

Our pick: We’d stick with the V6 Premium and not pay a penny more. The V6 Luxury does add nicer leather seats but that leaves us questioning if we should just jump all the way up to the V8 Luxury. This is why we say stick to your laurels and pick the cheapest of the range, unless you are willing to put your money where your mouth is and get the V8.

Facts about Saab

Did you know that…. James Bond, special agent 007, drove a Saab 900 Turbo? Or that Grand Prix driver Sir Stirling Moss once navigated for Saab rally legend Erik Carlsson? And that Saab not only produced aircraft, but also a series of ultra-light caravans? Whatever your interest, we hope you’ll find this review of Saab’s first 60 years entertaining, informative, and even a little surprising in places – just as you would expect from the Saab brand. The first Saab car was revealed to the automotive world on 10th June 1947 in a staff canteen at the aircraft company’s Linköping headquarters in Sweden. Such humble beginnings marked the birth of what has become a major international brand, now represented in more than 60 countries all over the world. In celebration of our upcoming diamond jubilee, we’ve assembled a potpourri of 60 little ‘gems’. It’s intended to express something of the passion and tradition for innovative, independent thinking that continues to inspire the Saab brand and the development of its products today. 1. Greta Molander, a Swedish-born woman who began rallying in 1929, was the first driver to win a prize for Saab on the Monte Carlo Rally. She took the Ladies Cup in 1952, driving a Saab 92, ten years before Erik Carlsson achieved the first of his two Monte Carlo victories. 2. Saab once considered going into boatbuilding. In 1944, as war was drawing to a close, Saab the aircraft maker was looking to diversify into other products during peacetime. A number of aluminum-hulled boats, including some with hydrofoils in the bows, were built but, in the end, automobiles were considered to be a better bet. 3. It was back pain suffered by a senior Saab executive that prompted the development of the heated driver’s seat, an innovation from Saab in 1971. The pain was particularly bad on cold, frosty mornings and a colleague devised a means of heating the driver’s seat to minimize the discomfort. As the result was so effective, and also so popular, the solution was put into production. 4. A 1:10 scale model of an early Saab 92 prototype was tested in an aircraft wind tunnel in 1946. Such testing was very unusual for a production car manufacturer of the time but very much second nature for an aircraft maker. The final prototype’s 0.32 co-efficient of drag was exceptionally low for a production car of time and would still be competitive today. 5. Rather like the first T-model Ford, you could have an early Saab 92 in any color you liked – as long as it was bottle green. The paint was readily available in surplus army supplies left over from the war. Saab did not offer a color choice until 1952. 6. In 1993, Saab adopted a feature commonly found in aircraft cockpits when it introduced ‘need to know’ instrument and information illumination on the new Saab 900. The innovative ‘Night Panel’ feature on Saab cars allows the driver to eliminate potential distraction by switching off main fascia displays, except the speedometer and essential warning lights. 7. Saab engine guru Dr Per Gillbrand – often described as the father of the production turbo – has a very simple explanation for his commitment to turbocharging. “All engines have an oil pump, a fuel pump and a water pump”, he said. “So why not an air pump, which is all a turbo really is? I think it’s odd that all engines don’t have one!” 8. Saab staged what is probably the world’s highest car launch when it presented the Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon in 2000. At an airstrip near a New Mexico ski resort in the United States, 2,650 meters (8,700 ft) up in the Rockies, journalists were invited to carry out acceleration runs with the new Saab and other high-powered cars from premium class competitors. The results demonstrated how Saab Trionic engine management was able to maintain the turbo engine’s performance, despite the thinner air of high altitude, while the other cars that were left behind. 9. In 1966, to keep the arrival of the upcoming Saab 99 secret, endurance testing of prototypes was carried out inside an old aircraft hangar. Non- stop runs were conducted as the prototypes circled round and round for several days at a time to test driveshaft durability. 10. The best selling Saab of all-time is still the first generation ‘classic’ 900. A total of 908,817 were built between 1978 and 1993, of which 48,888 were Convertibles. Widely viewed as one of the most charismatic Saabs, many 900s are still seen on the road today, 13 years after production ceased. Some are treasured by collectors, but most are used for regular daily transport. Saab reliability and durability has enabled them to clock up extremely high mileages. 11. In 2006, 20 years after its launch, total sales of the Saab Convertible passed the quarter million mark, confirming Saab’s prominent position in Europe’s premium soft-top segment. In many markets, the Saab convertible has been the best-selling model in its class. 12. When the cameras roll and the action begins, it is the Saab Convertible that often gets the part. Jack Nicholson (As Good As It Gets), Matt Damon (The Bourne Supremacy), Richard Gere (Final Analysis), Paul Giamatti (Sideways), Jerry Seinfeld (Seinfeld TV show) and Reese Witherspoon (Sweet Home Alabama) have all appeared in a Saab Convertible on screen. 13. As early as 1952, Saab set an industry standard in locating the Saab 92’s fuel tank low down, between the rear wheels – for good impact protection and improved weight distribution. 14. In 1991, Saab set another industry design standard by introducing handy, under thigh, storage pouches on the leading edge of the front seat squabs on the new Saab 9000CS. This feature has now been commonly adopted by other manufacturers. 15. The smooth, choreographed action of the Saab 9-5’s cup-holder so impressed a UK journalist from the Times newspaper, he likened it to watching a Saab Gripen fighter rolling out of formation and lowering its undercarriage before coming into land. 16. Saab engineers love to ‘talk torque’ when discussing turbocharging, referring to the effortless, tidal wave of pulling power that is on tap without needing to ‘rev’ the engine hard. In fact, the long, flat torque ‘curve’ of a typical Saab turbo engine has frequently been likened to the plateau-like profile of Ayers Rock in Australia. 17. Gunnar Ljungström, the aircraft engineer who led the Saab 92 project, maintained a spirit for innovation long into his retirement. In his 80s, he designed a wooden chair that converted easily into a step ladder for elderly people in the home. It was produced for a time by a firm in Trollhättan, Saab’s home town. 18. There are several good reasons why the ignition in Saab cars is traditionally placed between the front seats. Good ergonomics, inherited from the cockpit design of Saab aircraft, dictated an easy-to-use location adjacent to the handbrake and gearshift lever. This position also reduces the risk of knee injury in a crash impact. And it is no coincidence that the central console is where most controls can be found in aircraft. 19. In 1985, long before green energy became an agenda item, Saab’s first concept car, EV-1, featured solar roof cells to power a ventilation fan to keep the interior cool when parked in hot temperatures. It also included integrated, self-repairing bumpers and an instrument ‘Night Panel’ facility, both features to appear on later production cars. 20. The design of the innovative rear cargo tracks on the Saab 9-5 SportCombis was inspired by the seat-mounting rails used in the cabin floors of passenger aircraft. The tracks are strong enough to support the entire weight of the car, as once demonstrated at a 1998 UK press launch, when the complete vehicle (minus fluids) was suspended on a crane from just two hooks in the tracks. 21. The stunning 2006 Aero X concept car draws on Saab’s aviation heritage to provide the driver with a clear, 180° field of vision by adopting an aircraft-style canopy to completely eliminate the need for windshield pillars – and even doors. Inspirational design that won US Autoweek magazine’s ‘Best in Show’ honors on its world debut at Geneva and Autocar’s ‘Concept Car of the Year’ award in the UK. 22. The brand name ‘Saab’ is an acronym for Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget, Swedish Aircraft Company Limited, founded in 1937. A stylized aircraft wing, a feature of early Saab car badges, can still be seen in the grille design of today’s cars as homage to Saab’s unique aircraft heritage. 23. According to popular myth, none of the 16-strong project team behind the first Saab car had a driving license. While that is not strictly true, most of them did not, as they were originally trained as aircraft engineers. We are certain only project leader Gunnar Ljungström and test driver Rolf Mellde had a car license. 24. The ‘92’ model designation was chosen for Saab’s first car as the number was next in sequence for what had until then been civil aircraft projects. The Saab 91 was a two-seater training aircraft and the Saab 90 a 24-seat passenger plane. 25. Sixten Sason, the designer of the early Saabs from the original 92 to the highly innovative 99, was a leading exponent of the emerging discipline of industrial design. Working as a freelance, he also designed the first Hasselblad camera, Husqvarna motorcycles and Electrolux domestic products. 26. The basement of a house in Trollhättan, Saab’s home town, has wall paintings of Nordic scenes, including a large sketch of the Saab 92, signed by Sixten Sason. The mural is dated 1955 and believed to been painted by Sason during a party at the house. 27. The ‘four dimensional’ Saab 9X concept – unveiled at the 2001 Frankfurt Motor Show – was voted Best Concept Car in the 2002 European Automotive Design Awards by Designers (Europe) members among car manufacturers, design studios and suppliers. The 9X’s innovative design offered coupé, roadster, wagon and pick-up body formats within one versatile architecture. 28. The Toppola Camper is an extraordinary accessory, popular in Sweden among hatchback Saab 99 and ‘classic’ 900 owners. It converts their cars into an instant ‘campervan’, complete with cooker, heater, rear standing room and a double bed. The entire module, resembling an automotive ‘rucksack’, is fitted by removing the car’s rear door. 29. The steel body panels of the first Saab prototype (92.001), built in 1946, were pummeled into shape by panel-beaters working on wooden benches standing in horse droppings. Apparently, this cushioned surface gave them just the right responses and feel for their work. An earlier full-scale wooden mock-up was covered in shiny, black shoe polish instead of paint. 30. The ‘unknown’ Saab models numbers – 94, 97 and 98 – were each used for car projects, one of which went into commercial production. Project number ‘94’ was a two-seater sports car, Sonnet 1, of which six prototypes were built in 1956. ‘97’ was assigned to what became the Sonett II and III sport coupés, produced from 1966-74. ‘98’ was a prototype designed in 1974 as a hatchback version of the 95 wagon. Anticipated sales volumes were considered insufficient to justify commercial production. 31. Erik Carlsson earned his nickname ‘On The Roof’ for early rally exploits in Sweden. It was also inspired by the ‘On The Roof’ Karlsson character in Astrid Lindgren children’s books. And he could even have earned it for a novel ‘roll-over’ technique he developed with co-driver Gunnar Palm to get their car out of the mud on another Safari rally. 32. Sten Wennlo, Saab’s Managing Director in the 70s, was a key supporter of turbo engine development. After a secret night-time turbo test drive, he stopped at a hot dog kiosk and phoned the engineering department to give the green light for production. The kiosk owner later became Saab’s first turbo customer. 33. In 1957, a press advertising photograph illustrating the versatile ‘beddable’ attributes of the Saab 93 caused controversy in Sweden. It showed a young couple settling down for the night on flat-folding seats inside the car – but the woman was clearly not wearing a wedding ring. This caused public objections and a ring was hastily drawn in on the woman’s finger. 34. In 1986 and again in 1996, a fleet of Saabs stormed the high speed Talladega Speedway in United States, setting a string of speed and endurance records for standard production cars. In 1986, the lead 9000 turbo covered 100,000 kms (62,140 miles), stopping only for servicing, fuel, tyre and driver changes, at an average speed of 213 kph (132 mph). Ten years later, the fastest 900 turbo covered 40,000 kms (24,800 miles), achieving an average speed of over 226 kph (140 mph). 35. ‘78 Saab’ is not another ‘missing’ Saab model designation, but the name of a popular Australian ‘soft rock’ band formed in June 2005. The name was adopted because one of the members owned a 1978 Saab when they were thinking of a catchy title for the band. 36. In the early 70’s Saab moved into international sponsorship by backing promising young Swedish athletes, helping to set tennis player Björn Borg and skier Ingemar Stenmark on the road to international stardom. Under the umbrella ‘SuperSwedes’, these two also helped launch the Saab 99 Turbo. 37. James Bond, special agent 007, drove a Saab 900 Turbo in the first three novels written by James Gardner in 1981-85, following the death of Bond creator Ian Fleming. A ‘replica’ of 007’s so-called ‘Silver Beast’ was built by Saab for promotional use and is now displayed in the Saab Car Museum. It features developments such as a built-in mobile phone with text messaging and tear gas ducts. 38. Erik Carlsson is the brother -in-law of GP legend Sir Stirling Moss, who was co-driver to Erik on the 1965 Safari Rally. They got lost and had to retire, but it was not Stirling’s fault – the navigation equipment was faulty. 39. In 1980, Saab produced an innovative promotional video featuring tennis star Björn Borg and rally ace Stig Blomqvist ‘doing each other’s jobs’. It showed Borg coaching Blomqvist at tennis and Blomqvist teaching Borg the finer arts of car control. Afterwards, Björn said it was the most nerve wracking experience he had ever had. But he was far better at rally driving than Stig was at trying to play tennis. 40. During the 60s, Saab produced a small caravan – the SAABO – in limited numbers. Light and simple, yet extremely versatile, several of these have survived and are valued among collectors. SAABOs are often seen at classic Saab gatherings, adding to the spirit of camaraderie among owners – and helping them save on hotel bills. 41. Senior Saab executives are currently participating in user trials of Saab’s AlcoKey, an innovative ‘alco-lock’ device that immobilises the car if the driver’s breath sample reading is found to be over the limit. The Saab volunteers are part of a 100-strong trial program underway in Sweden. The device has already won the Swedish Automobile Association’s 2006 award for innovations that contribute to improvements in safety or the environment. 42. Saab’s core real-life safety philosophy is born from its aviation heritage, where pilot and crew safety is always paramount. Saab’s current database of more than 6,100 real-life road accidents involving Saab cars goes right back to 1948, the first entry relating to an accident experienced by a Saab test driver. 43. The fastest production Saab ever is the current 9-3 Sport Sedan with a 250 hp, 2.8V6 turbo engine, also available in SportCombi and Convertible bodystyles. This sophisticated powerplant represents the state-of-the-art in turbo technology, drawing on Saab’s vast experience accumulated over almost 30 years since the launch of the first 99 Turbo. 44. In 1982, Saab was the first car manufacturer to take advantage of new materials to replace asbestos, introducing asbestos-free brake and clutch linings. In 1991, it also led the industry in eliminating CFC’s from in-car air conditioning systems. 45. In 1996, a Sonett 1 sports car from the Saab Museum – with Erik Carlsson at the wheel – set a new Swedish speed record of 159.4 kph (99 mph) for a 750 cc road car, exactly 40 years after it was built. All six Sonett 1’s that were produced still exist today, two of which are at the Saab Museum. 46. The Saab 9-5 BioPower is the only bioethanol-fueled car in the world to give the driver increased engine power and performance – as well as lower fossil CO2 emissions. That’s because its turbocharged engine allows Saab to exploit the higher octane rating of E85 fuel. Flex-fuel cars are able to run on gasoline and/or a renewable fuel, such as E85, which is 85% bioethanol and 15% gasoline. 47. For good roll-over protection, the windshield pillars and header rail on the current Saab 9-3 Convertible are strong enough to support a total weight of 3.5 tonnes, equivalent to 2.2 times the weight of the car. 48. A Saab car is designed to help you survive hitting a wild moose. Saab’s simulated moose crash test, developed in the mid-80s, involves the car striking a 350 kg (770 lbs) dummy moose head-on at 70 kph (43 mph). Hitting one of these large animals is a relatively common occurrence on rural roads in Sweden and the introduction of this demanding test is typical of Saab’s real-life safety approach. 49. In order to win his third RAC Rally in the UK in 1962, Erik Carlsson left a Saab 96 owner rather upset after ‘stealing’ a rear suspension component from his parked car to replace a broken piece on the rally car. The two became good friends afterwards. 50. The most ‘extreme’ development of the Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan is Per Eklund’s 550 bhp entry in the European Rallycross Championship. With all-wheel-drive, it can accelerate from zero to 100 kph (62 mph) in 2.2 seconds, as fast as a Formula One car. 51. Saab’s real-life safety philosophy is also demonstrated by the development of the unique ‘pendulum’ B-pillar design on the Saab 9-3 and 9-5, found to be effective in helping to deflect side impact forces away from the passenger compartment. 52. In 1997, with the introduction of Saab Active Head Restraints (SAHR) on the 9-5 model, Saab led the auto industry in developing a system to help provide protection against whiplash neck injury in rear-end impacts. A Saab study published in the US Journal of Trauma in 2003 found a remarkable 75 per cent reduction in severe neck injuries when comparing the accident performance of Saab cars fitted with SAHR against older Saab models not equipped with the system. 53. The first hybrid vehicle entirely free of fossil fuel emissions is already here. The Saab BioPower Hybrid Concept, based on a 9-3 Convertible and premiered at the 2006 Stockholm Motor Show, combines electric power generation with a turbo engine using 100% pure ethanol fuel. It is also the world’s first hybrid soft-top model. 54. Saab has already developed a flex-fuel engine that can run on pure E100 fuel – completely eliminating fossil-based CO2 exhaust emissions. The technology is showcased in the 400 bhp, twin-turbo engine of the award- winning 2006 Aero X concept car. 55. Saab calculates that a Saab 9-5 BioPower driver averaging 15,000 kms (9,300 miles) a year on E85 fuel (85% ethanol/15% gasoline) will consume 1,060 liters (233 gals) less gasoline, thereby significantly reducing fossil-based CO2 emissions. 56. Billionaire businessman Sir Richard Branson drives a Saab 9-5 BioPower to demonstrate his commitment to greener motoring. Branson’s Virgin Group is to invest £1.6 billion over the next 10 years in the research and development of biofuels, including bioethanol, for transport. 57. Innovative Saab concepts that did not make production include a thermo-accumulator, designed to store engine heat for a quick warm-up during cold starts, and an exhaust gas storage bag, intended to briefly collect and then recycle exhaust emissions when the car’s catalyst gets up to working temperature. Installation and packaging issues prevented development for commercial production. 58. More than four million Saab cars have been produced since commercial production began in December 1949. The four millionth car, 9-3 SportCombi rolled off the production line in June 2005 and is now on display at the Saab Museum. Production milestones are being reached with increasing regularity. The millionth car – a Saab 99 Combi Coupé – was built in January 1976, the two millionth – a Saab 9000 Turbo – in March 1987 and the three millionth – a Saab 9-5 Sedan – in October 1997. 59. In the United States, a1989 Saab Turbo has clocked up more than 1 million miles (1.61m kms), equivalent to 40 trips round the world. Owner Peter Gilbert plans retiring the car to a local Wisconsin auto museum. 60. Saab enters its diamond jubilee year with global and European sales running at record levels. In 2006, over 130,000 cars were sold around the world, including more than 80,000 in Europe. Innovative concepts, such as the Saab Aero X and Saab BioPower Hybrid, point to an exciting future for the brand. And with new products coming in new market segments, the next 60 years for Saab are likely to be even more eventful.

Trying to make sense of the Toyota CH-R

The CH-R dare we say is the most stylish Toyota we’ve seen in a long time. It’s coupe-like profile means that you can have the rakish style of a BMW X4 without the premium price, but sometimes is the premium price justified?

The CH-R looks like it would have a large turbo under the bonnet, but you’ll be sad to learn that it isn’t even offered as an option. Instead you’ll be greeted by a 2-liter four-cylinder which offers decent flexibility if spirited driving isn’t in your vocabulary. Don’t get us wrong here, we love the low running costs associated with this engine but the sporty looks are just deceiving. We were hoping for more. There is no manual gearbox available just a continuously variable transmission which offers smooth acceleration around town and doesn’t really make too much of a ruckus on the highway, unless you flat out flog it.

The previous statement about the CH-R looking sporty but not feeling sporty at all follows into the driving experience. Steering feedback is just numb while road holding is more on the safe side rather than sporty or adventurous, to put it mildly you won’t want to push it through corners and bends like you would in let’s say a Nissan Juke. The steering is so numb that you have no clue what the front wheels are doing. We can say however, that road and wind noise are well suppressed and it is comfortable to drive on long journeys.

Most people won’t be driving it like hooligans and well those people who drive it more conservatively will find it quite comfortable. It’s dinky size makes parking in tight urban areas a breeze and while the steering is numb, it does make maneuvering around town easy.

The interior of the CH-R is a mixed bag. While the materials used in the cabin feel sturdy and long lasting, some of the plastics feel hard and cheap. The infotainment screen is fiddly to navigate through while on the move, it takes some time getting used to some of the menus. The front seats offer plenty of space, but those in the back will not want to ride for too long. The rear windows are downright tiny, and the fact that you can’t get the CH-R with a panorama sunroof means that those in the back will feel claustrophobic on long journeys. Visibility is great all but through the tiny rear window, luckily a parking-camera comes standard to help take the sting out of that. The boot space is tiny also and well, we understand that with style you give up practicality, but there should at least be some trade-offs that make it feel worth compromising for.

The CH-R does come well kitted for the money. XLE trim comes standard with auto-dimming rearview mirror with integrated backup camera, dual-zone climate control, LED daytime running lamps and 4.2-inch infotainment screen with Bluetooth for your mobile device. XLE-premium comes with keyless start, Blind Spot Monitoring system, electronic parking brake and sport-fabric trimmed front seats.

You’ll either love or loathe the CH-R. It doesn’t come with all-wheel-drive, visibility isn’t great and the engine doesn’t really go with the sporty looks. However, you do get a comfortable overall package here with low running costs. Which for some is good but others it feels lacking, and even if it does have Toyota’s Legendary build quality, there are rivals that have caught on and offer a more engaging driving experience to match.

Likes: Low running costs along with stylish exterior looks, rock solid build quality.

Dislikes: It’s not engaging to drive, the boot space is tiny. The rear passenger window is a joke. A panorama sunroof option is much needed here.

Devon’s pick: We strongly suggest sticking with the basics of the XLE. It already comes with all the kit you’ll need and is attractively priced, the XLE-premium only adds a few extra bits that some can do without. Plus without all-wheel-drive option it feels pretty expensive compared to those that are priced similarly with all-wheel-drive standard. 

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Answering car questions

We decided to respond to car questions found on the internet.

What is the purpose of an automobile clutch pedal?
What happens when you push on the clutch pedal? Explain it in the most simplist way as possible.

Cars with a clutch pedal (three-pedal layout) are manual transmission cars. The Clutch pedal is simply there to allow you to shift between gears. Most modern cars you have to depress the clutch pedal before turning on the engine.

Car Dealer Question?
Can a car dealership purposely sell you a car knowing there would be financial repercussions without telling you beforehand?

A car dealership will try to sell you a car regardless if you can or can't afford it. I strongly suggest doing your homework before going into a car dealership and know exactly what you can and can't afford. You don't want to put yourself in a financial crunch paying for a car that you cannot afford. A car dealership will hype the car up because they want the sale and want you to pay the most as possible because the more money you spend the more profits they make in return. Yes, they will make the car look lavish and awesome until the first payment is due.

Im buying my first car tomorrow?
I’m 18 years old & tomorrow I will be buying my first car by myself with my own money. I don’t have any support from my parents & they told me that they didn’t want to come with me so I have to go through this all by myself even though I wanted them there. I’m having a friend of mine drive me to the dealership & I have no idea what I should bring or how this will all go down. I’m also paying for the car in cash. Can anyone explain the process step by step for me? Thank you.

Listen to me when I say this. Do not! I repeat do not go to a dealership by yourself! Car dealerships love consumers such as yourself who has no clue about buying a car. They will take advantage of your lack of knowledge and put you in a auto loan that you can't afford. I strongly suggest taking someone who has experience buying a car and knows exactly what you should and shouldn't buy. Also, someone that knows if you're being taken advantage of. Buying a car is a huge responsibility, so take someone who can give you tips and guide you through the car buying experience.


IS it possible to import a Mercedes X class into the US?
With the X Class being Mercedes first ever true pickup, selling to the US seems like an option. Though due to the workings of the pickup truck market in the US, as well as what Mercedes is known as in the US vs. the rest of the world, Mercedes doesn t see the US market as being worth the time. But despite this, some Americans might find the X class to be appealing. So With that, is there any possible way to import an X Class to the US?

I agree with you. It would make a lot of sense if Mercedes sold the X-Class here along with the commercial vans they sell. However, I strongly suspect that the reason Mercedes isn't going to sell the X-Class here has to do with the simple fact that it would cost a lot of money to make it street legal here in the U.S. Also, the X-Class would be far too expensive compared to the Ford F-150 and Dodge Ram pickups that dominate U.S. sales. Lincoln tried to sell a 'luxury pickup' and failed miserably.


You are buying a new car.you have to choose transmission (automatic or manual),color (red,blue or white) and body style (Suv,hatch batch or?

I'll answer this question as if I were getting ready to buy a new car today. I would choose a Kia Sportage EX. It only comes with an automatic gearbox. Color, I'd choose blue. Body style, well it's an SUV of course.


Why is 2014 3X more expensive than 2012?
I found a 2012 MB S-class for $10k but can't find a 2014 S-class for less than $30k. Why are they so expensive??

The cheapest BMW X3 I found was $11K and the most expensive going as high as $23k. BMW tends to hold onto their value a lot better than Mercedes. However, I strongly suggest if you are considering an X3 to go for the more basic version. BMW tends to shove a ton of technology into their vehicles like Mercedes. The more tech the more prone to reliability issues you'll have, and the higher your repair bills are going to be. The Mercedes S-class has dreadful resale value because most tend to get rid of them after the lease is up and buy another one. Luxury cars tend to fall apart after warranty because of all the tech that's shoved in them and most (not all) tend to not really take care of them.

Should I sell my car now?
I have a nissan Alt 150,000 miles and I honestly want a Nissan 370Z. Some of my friends are saying sell my car now for the 370 but I’m thinking I should just wait till my car breaks down then get it.

Sell now!! Get rid of the car while it still working and you'll able to get something back from it if you are trading in at a dealership. You'll make more money selling yourself privately. However, don't wait until it breaks down. It will be harder to get rid of the car and you'll get far less for it in terms of value.

BMW or Mercedes and why?
I like BMW because aesthetically and performance wise it is closer to a spy mobile then a Mercedes which seems more like a limousine to me.

I'd go with BMW (3-series touring) over Mercedes. I honestly think the 3-series touring is the best BMW they have in their range and it's sad that they won't be selling them here in the U.S. after 2019. The 3-series touring is sporty to drive. It has a roomy interior and is all the car you'll ever need without compromising to an SUV or sedan. I like Mercedes products but they've never been eye appealing to me, and also they tend to be very problematic.

I need to get car repod. I plan on buying a car 3 weeks after the repo . Do i have to be worried? Im 20 btw.?

I don't think you understand the severity of getting your car repoed. When your car is repoed, the bank sells the car at an auction and you're stuck paying the remaining balance. Not only are you left with the balance but you are also left with a huge negative impact on your credit score. They (banks) will see this on your credit history and not want to give you an auto loan, or if they do it will be very high interest rates. I strongly suggest sitting down and figuring out your financial situation first and see ways that you can get out of your lease or loan to avoid repo.

Land Rover updates the Disco (2021)

The Land Rover Disco is the Land Rover for those who seek versatility. The previous engines offered are no more. You can only choose from a 2-liter turbocharged four-cylinder pumping out 296hp and a 3-liter turbocharged six-cylinder with a 48-volt mild-hybrid system. Picking between the two of them depends upon what you desire the most. We reckon the six-cylinder is the way to go if you are willing to pay the premium for it. Everyone else will be satisfied with the four-cylinder which is our pick of the range. It’s smooth enough for daily tasks and doesn’t feel shortchanged when you’re on the highway. However, the Disco is by no means a sports saloon. You’ll forgive it though as the ride comfort is superb. Which is exactly what you’d want if you are planning to ferry seven-people around. Air-suspension is now standard-kit across the board here. It helps make the Disco feel planted when driving on narrow switchbacks, but most importantly is provides an elevation of comfort that we’ve come to expect from Land Rover. It really does feel like a luxury saloon. The only real difference is in the dynamics. It does show body-roll when you want to drive in a sporty fashion. However, you’ll have to settle for a BMW X5 or Porsche Cayenne. Both are great choices, but none are as roomy or versatile as the Disco. The driving position is spot on good with excellent comfort and refinement. The infotainment is now a 11.4-inch and is much easier to navigate through than before. We love the simplicity of the interior although some may say that it is a bit plain. The second-row seats offer good headroom and legroom, although those in the third row won’t really want to stay back there for too long. It isn’t as versatile as the XC90 which does the three rows of passenger comfort well. Boot space with the seats in place is about class average, but when you fold that third-row seat down space opens up considerably. Fold the second-row seat down also and you’ve got yourself a cargo van. The electrically folding seats do take a while to fold and unfold. The driving position is spot on good with excellent comfort and refinement. The infotainment is now a 11.4-inch and is much easier to navigate through than before. We love the simplicity of the interior although some may say that it is a bit plain. The second-row seats offer good headroom and legroom, although those in the third row won’t really want to stay back there for too long. It isn’t as versatile as the XC90 which does the three rows of passenger comfort well. Boot space with the seats in place is about class average, but when you fold that third-row seat down space opens up considerably. Fold the second-row seat down also and you’ve got yourself a cargo van. The electrically folding seats do take a while to fold and unfold. Discover S comes with 20-inch alloy wheels standard. Along with rain-sensing windshield wipers, automatic headlights and rearview parking camera. You’ll have to step up to R-Dynamic trim to get the optional six-cylinder engine. With R-Dynamic HSE coming standard with 22-inch alloy wheels, automatic high beam assist and 3D Surround view camera. The Disco is the Land Rover that’s a real jack of all trade. Likes: The new engines are much more refined. The infotainment system has been drastically improved. Dislikes: No more diesel six-cylinder. The new turbo six-cylinder is limited to R-Dynamic. Our pick: The Disco S is the best compromise without having to pay Land Rover price tag.

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Flat Earth Theory (Debunked)

Rapper B.o.B. has caused a furor by tweeting that the Earth is in fact flat, and you only need to look at the evidence to come to the same conclusion. 

(I find it incredibly annoying when celebrities get on a platform and start pulling shit of their ass without any kind of logic or reason. What evidence do you have that the earth is flat? Where is the evidence?!)

Obviously, prominent scientists have openly mocked this claim, showing the many ways in which, it is ludicrous, no matter how many people insist otherwise. They’re right though; sadly. B.o.B. is wrong. His nonsense claims, such as the idea that Earth’s curvature should be visible at certain distances but isn’t, are just that: nonsense. His comments and insistent statements are little more than childish naivety. In truth, the conspiracy goes much, much deeper than that. 

(I surely can’t wait to hear how deep these conspiracies go. I mean since we are going to jump down the rabbit hole with this and whatever sense of logic is clearly going to be ignored. Let’s just dive in shall we! Please explain to me why the earth is flat; and I’ll promise I won’t try to hurl myself off the 99th floor of the nearest high rise.)

For example, the Earth really is flat. As in totally flat, like a sheet of glass. The definition of flat is “having a level surface; without raised areas or indentations”. So how can you have tall buildings and mountains if the Earth is flat? You can’t. Q.E.D. It would be like saying a hedgehog is flat, which, barring an unfortunate encounter with a heavy goods vehicle, it clearly isn’t.

(The earth indeed isn’t flat. I’ll give you an example that even a child would understand. The earth’s rotation speed is 1,000mph. The reason you don’t feel the earth move at this speed is due to gravity. It’s like driving a car. You don’t notice how fast the car is going because you’re moving with the car. It’s not dramatic like people think it should. Otherwise we’d all be dead. Secondly, a flat earth wouldn’t work because the center of gravity would be forced on the middle of the earth (north pole) and everything would have to be designed around that. Buildings would be built at an angle and walking to the north pole would be like trying to walk up a 90-degree wall. It just wouldn’t work.)

Some might take issue with this, based on the flimsy evidence that they can see buildings, hills, trees, mountains and things like that everywhere, and may even be in or on them right now. This is just another example of how blinkered people are. If you look closely, the clues are everywhere.

(Please explain to me what these clues are? We’ve debunked the flat earth again with this example. Climates and time zones. It’s basically 6:53am here in Chicago but in Paris it’s 12:54pm, or in Tokyo it’s 8:54pm. A flat earth would not divide the time zones as well as a ‘oblate spherical’ shaped earth would. Also, each part of the earth temperatures is different. The closer you are to the equator the warmer the climate is. The further away from the equator you travel, the climate gets colder. A flat earth would not divide climates at all.)

For instance, what’s the tallest supposed mountain on Earth? Everest. Except it isn’t. The name is a giveaway; it’s clearly a morphing of “never rest”, because if you wanted to go to the biggest mountain you’d literally never rest, because it isn’t actually there. 

(Let me get this straight. You’re saying that Mount Everest doesn’t exist? People who literally go to this mountain and try to hike it every year are not climbing the mountain at all? It’s just a figment of their imagination? It’s all just one big lie to propagate the government’s agenda to keep us dumb? I love conspiracy theories but this one is pushing every boundary of insanity that it possibly can.)

What about all those people who have climbed it, you say? Well, consider all the people who have died supposedly doing so. How do you die climbing something that isn’t there? You can’t. They were obviously killed to protect the conspiracy, whereas those who “survived” were willing to play ball.

(Okay, now this is just getting out of fucking control. You expect me to believe that Mount Everest doesn’t exist. The people who climbed it and died, didn’t climb the mountain because they were assassinated to keep a mountain a secret? You sir, have really need to lay off the cocaine or whatever drugs you’re on. Do you know how insane it sounds when you say the government is killing people to keep Mount Everest a secret? Why are they keeping this a secret?! Flat earth or not, this is stupid.)

And if that isn’t clear enough, pretty much everyone who attempts to climb Everest takes oxygen with them.

(Okay, Mount Everest is 29,000 feet plus in elevation. I’m pretty sure at a certain elevation you’ll need oxygen to assist you with breathing. The higher the elevation the thinner the oxygen layer becomes. There is a layer within the atmosphere that protects us mysterious objects from space.)

Why would you do that when there’s oxygen all around us, in the air? 

(The higher you climb in elevation the thinner the oxygen becomes. Denver for example sits pretty high in elevation and you immediately know because it has less oxygen levels than let’s say Chicago. It’s simple people!)

Wherever they’re going, it isn’t on Earth.

(You’re not on earth either, using this line of bullshit.)

You know where you do need oxygen, though? THE MOON! 

(According to Flat Earth Theory. The moon rotates around us like those toys attached to a crib. Are both the sun and moon rotating within the glass dome or outside of it? It’s pretty hard to see the sun from inside the glass dome and if the sun were that close inside of a glass dome. We’d all be dead because the sun is incredibly hot. 27 million degrees to be exact. Which means that both the glass dome and the earth would bake. Nothing on this planet would exist.)

That’s where they’re going. So-called mountaineers are being sent to the moon in order to fake climbing Everest. 

(Okay, not only is Mount Everest fake, but it’s not even on our planet. It’s on the goddamn moon! Are you people fucking insane?!!!)

This is why Nasa had to fake the moon landing with astronauts, because it was already full of mountaineers and they couldn’t risk exposing that conspiracy.

(The conspiracy about the ‘fake lunar landing’ is they filmed it in Area 51. Okay, now with that being said. Area 51, last time I checked was here on planet Earth. It wasn’t on the Moon and it wasn’t on Jupiter. Also, what is the goal of ‘fake mountains’ and how are all these people traveling to the goddamn moon to climb a mountain?)

See how it all adds up?

(None of it adds up. It’s all completely and utterly insane!)

Some might still object, because they’re currently sitting in a tall building. They’re not though, they only “think” they are. 

(Let me get this straight. I venture to the top floor of the Empire State Building. I’m not really in the Empire State Building. It’s all a figment of my imagination. You should test this theory out by jumping from the top floor. It’s not real according to your logic.)

In truth, everyone is breathing in a potent mix of hallucinogens that are constantly in the air around us, and these cause us to perceive buildings and tall things where there are none. How did these hallucinogens get in the air? Well, that’s what chemtrails are actually for.

(Somehow, I’m more convinced that you are the one on hallucinogens. It’s the only way that anyone could come up with bullshit like this.)

Don’t worry, these hallucinogenic compounds aren’t provided by evil “Big Pharma”; they’re actually secreted by the shape-shifting lizards that rule society. 

(Shape-shifting lizards keep us drugged up to convince us that the earth is flat? Why do we need to be convinced that the earth is flat? It’s quite literally impossible for the earth to be flat when simple logic is applied.)

Why do you think lizards are in charge in the first place? They provide the secretions that keep the population in line, believing in things like the Earth is round and buildings exist. 

(Please explain to me how you’ve come to this conclusion? I don’t know if I’m being trolled or if this is just a sick joke? Why are we being lied to about the shape of our planet? Why don’t buildings exist? You aren’t telling me jack shit about shit here. All you’re doing is pulling shit out of your ass and not providing any kind of evidence to back them up. I can say that Mars is the 19th planet in our solar system and that Mercury rotates around Jupiter. However, if I don’t have proof of these claims then my claims are just ramblings. And people will think that I’m stupid for saying them. The same can be applied here, I think you’re just stupid.)

The few times people have actually tried to make a tall building like the World Trade Centre, it is destroyed by the government.

(Burj Khalifa located in Dubai is currently the world’s largest tower. I haven’t seen that get destroyed, nor is it made up. It’s a real tower in a real location. We have proof that it exists. The World Trade Center is a whole other conspiracy inside of a conspiracy and we can sit here all day discussing that. However, what we are discussing is the shape of our planet. It’s round!)

Some refer to “false flags” at times like this. In truth, all flags are false; they’re non-existent tall structures, so are just figments of our collective imagination.

(Hypothetically speaking; if I were to fly you to Dubai right now and we were standing face to face with Burj Khalifa (the largest tower in the world) you wouldn’t believe it existed? You’d think that we were hallucinating and just imagining shit? I want whatever drugs you are on! Seriously, you can walk inside of the tower. You can touch the tower and you can see the tower. You can take photographs with it. It’s not imaginary it’s real!)

This leads us on to other considerations though, like how thick is the Earth? It may be totally flat, but nobody said it’s two-dimensional. It must have a thickness, because we can go underground or underwater. Unlike mountains, the oceans are clearly real, because otherwise where did Atlantis go?

(The distance between the earth’s surface to the core is 3,958 miles. You admit that oceans exist but mountains, man that shit is just made up. The numerous photos and physical proof that mountains exist aren’t enough? I guess we are all just hallucinating on some good ass drugs.)

The deepest part of the ocean we know about is the Mariana trench, a full 7 miles down. This means the Earth is at least 7 miles thick, and probably a lot more so, because that’s a lot of water on top of it and it would need to be solid enough to keep it all in, lest all of the seas leak out of the bottom of the world. 

(Give me the drugs! I want whatever you’re huffing or snorting to come up with this shit. Okay, like I said earlier. The distance between the surface of the planet to the core is 3,958 miles. The Mariana Trench is the deepest part of the ocean that we ‘know’ of. We have yet to explore the rest of the oceans and our technology isn’t advanced enough to do so. We still speculate that there are points that go deeper than that. I, without doubt believe that also. We have found proof that there is a layer of ocean water underground which further proves the possibility that our oceans extend way deeper than the Mariana Trench. Also, that just sounds incredibly insane to think that the our oceans leak into outer space; that would mean that we have no atmosphere and no life on earth would exist if it weren’t for that atmosphere. A glass dome wouldn’t exist either because it would be destroyed by the sun which in return would destroy all life on earth.)

This clearly isn’t happening, even if you do ignore the nonsense that is rising sea levels due to global warming. How can you have global warming without a globe to warm? Hoisted by your own petard there, scientists!

(Our sea levels have rose, and this is due to our polar ice caps melting at an alarming rate. Population on our planet has increased significantly over the past decade or so and with the increase in population comes the increase in emissions from manufacturers, cars and other emissions that are harmful to the atmosphere. It’s causing our climate to rise significantly which in return has caused our sea levels to rise. We have witnessed powerful hurricanes and other weather patterns that aren’t normal. Climate change is real. Also, each part of the earth experiences different climates at different times of the year. A flat earth would be illogical for seasons and time zones.)

Maybe the world is as thick as it is wide, and is actually a cube? 

(I need you to reel yourself back in. We’ve gone from flat earth to a cube shaped planet? I mean when does the nonsense end with you flat earth theorist? How far up your ass did you reach to grab this load of shit?)

Scientists scoff at this notion, arguing that gravity would mean the atmosphere would be much thicker at the centre of the each surface and nearly barren at the poles. But have you noticed how the atmosphere is much more humid at the so-called “equator” yet the poles are practically lifeless? Coincidence? OBVIOUSLY NOT!

(UV rays are strongest in areas close to the equator. ... UV radiation is also the strongest near the equator because ozone in these areas is naturally thinner, so there is less to absorb the UV radiation. UV exposure is lower in areas further from the equator because the sun is farther away. Yes, the poles are lifeless because its furthest away from the sun. Which means that the climate is much too harsh for us to live.)

When you follow this train of logic, it becomes clear that the only feasible conclusion is that Earth is indeed flat. Flatter than anyone has ever expected.

(How? Please explain to me how this justifies a flat earth?)

Either that, or the human brain has a habit of looking for patterns in innocuous or coincidental occurrences, ascribing great significance to any connection it can find and trying to make sense of them despite the absence of any concrete evidence. But seriously, that’s a bit of a far-fetched claim isn’t it?

(What I find incredibly far-fetched is that you think that the earth is flat. The earth is not flat! Proof #1: a flat earth wouldn’t work due to gravity. Our planet spins at 1,000mph which means that gravity is what keeps us from floating off into space. If I were to jump off a building. I wouldn’t float away into space. I would fall towards the ground due to gravity pulling me downward. Gravity on a spinning disc would mean that all the buildings would have to be angled because the center of our ‘disc’ would be equivalent to walking up a 90-degree wall. Proof #2: seasons and time zones. I stated this earlier and I’ll state it again. Our planet wobbles and this is how our seasons change. Australia is in winter when areas in the northern hemisphere are in summer and vice versa. Also, Paris is currently 6:20pm while here in Chicago it’s 11:20am. We wouldn’t have these time differences on a flat earth. Proof #3: the sun and moon. According to flat earth theories, the sun and moon rotate around us within our ‘dome disc shaped planet’. It is quite literally impossible for the sun to be this close to our planet. The sun would destroy our atmosphere as it would burn up to the point of no return and so would the glass dome which would melt from the heat of the sun. Proof #4: perspective. If you were to look out at the horizon. A ship would appear from the top down and coming in view and vice versa. A flat earth, you’d see the ship at same height no matter the distance. Proof #5: try sailing across the Pacific Ocean. There was a time when people really did think that the earth was flat. They set sailed out to see if you could ‘fall off the face of the planet’ but instead discovered land. We would find this edge of the earth if it were indeed flat. Which would also change gravity, seasons and time zones. Science would have to basically re-write itself to match this ‘flat earth’. However, even the moon proves our planet is not ‘flat’. Earth casts a shadow on the moon’s surface and that shadow is ‘round’ and not ‘flat’.)